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Ælfred se leof

10 Mar 2022 10 Mar '22

8:44 p.m.

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Dylan Kerr

10 Mar 10 Mar

9:18 p.m.

The To address looks good, encoding is worse! On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 10:53 Ælfred se leof via Selenetest, < selenetest@lochac.sca.org> wrote:

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Ælfred se leof

11 Mar 11 Mar

6:55 a.m.

Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barfed on the non-ASCII characters. Anyone know any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" To: "Ælfred se leof" ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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The To address looks good, encoding is worse!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 10:53 Ælfred se leof via Selenetest, wrote:

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">Dot= ">Points :p> =C2=A0 A non-ASCI= I character: =C3=86 =C2=A0 =E2=80=9CS= mart=E2=80=9D quotes and greengrocers=E2=80=99 apostrophe=E2=80=99s. _______________________________________________ Selenetest mailing list -- selenetest@lochac.sca.org To unsubscribe send an email to selenetest-leave@lochac.sca.org or manage your subscription via the web interface at https://mailman.lochac.sca.org/postorius/lists/selenetest.lochac.sca.org

Even worse= , I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barf= ed on the non-ASCII characters. =C2=A0 Anyone kno= w any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-htm= l2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) \------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" <[sca@dylan= -kerr.net](3D"mailto:sca@dylan-kerr.net")> To: "=C3=86lfred se leof" <[ael= fred@nps.id.au](3D"mailto:aelfred@nps.id.au")>; [selene= test@lochac.sca.org](3D"mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org") Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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jeremy＠jeremygregson.com

8:34 a.m.

Is there a security/performance downside to letting HTML through? Because I don't think there are many non-html email clients left out there now. I know that spamassassin gives negative points to email which is only html. It thinks that is a Bad Sign, and that good mail should be multipart with plaintext and html versions - but it isn't a fatal problem, just something that contributes towards an overall score. -----Original Message----- From: Ælfred se leof via Selenetest Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 6:56 AM To: selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: Dylan Kerr Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barfed on the non-ASCII characters. Anyone know any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" To: "Ælfred se leof" ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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The To address looks good, encoding is worse!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 10:53 Ælfred se leof via Selenetest, wrote:

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.0pt;word-wrap:break-word"> Some bo= ld =C2=A0and italic text. =C2=A0

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">Dot= ">Points :p> =C2=A0 A non-ASCI= I character: =C3=86 =C2=A0 =E2=80=9CS= mart=E2=80=9D quotes and greengrocers=E2=80=99 apostrophe=E2=80=99s. _______________________________________________ Selenetest mailing list -- selenetest@lochac.sca.org To unsubscribe send an email to selenetest-leave@lochac.sca.org or manage your subscription via the web interface at https://mailman.lochac.sca.org/postorius/lists/selenetest.lochac.sca.org

Lochac Masonry Deputy

9:53 a.m.

I don’t know of any significant downside unless the spam filter is a problem as Nico says. But since list administrators can choose HTML conversion or not on a list-by-list basis I’d rather it worked than not. Since the Mailman2 lists are (mostly) HTML-free I think that setting will be brought across to Mailman3 by default – at least that’s what happened for selenetest. But we can ask everyone to switch off conversion as part of the migration if they want. Just to be sure it’s the list and not the crappy e-mail client I’m using (Windows Mail), can you let me know if the version of this e-mail that comes through the list matches the one that comes to you directly? Ælfred From: jeremy--- via Selenetest Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 8:43 AM To: 'Ælfred se leof'; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Is there a security/performance downside to letting HTML through? Because I don't think there are many non-html email clients left out there now. I know that spamassassin gives negative points to email which is only html. It thinks that is a Bad Sign, and that good mail should be multipart with plaintext and html versions - but it isn't a fatal problem, just something that contributes towards an overall score. -----Original Message----- From: Ælfred se leof via Selenetest Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 6:56 AM To: selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: Dylan Kerr Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barfed on the non-ASCII characters. Anyone know any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" To: "Ælfred se leof" ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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The To address looks good, encoding is worse!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 10:53 Ælfred se leof via Selenetest, wrote:

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jeremy＠jeremygregson.com

10:38 a.m.

For me, the two messages are identical, including the dipthong in your name. The only difference is that the copy from the list includes an attachment, ‘00730.omcsettings’. Ditching that would be nice, but I note that I already get lots of emails from mailman which include an attachment that thinks it is a postgreql file. From: Lochac Masonry Deputy Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 9:53 AM To: jeremy@jeremygregson.com; 'Ælfred se leof' ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' Subject: RE: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client I don’t know of any significant downside unless the spam filter is a problem as Nico says. But since list administrators can choose HTML conversion or not on a list-by-list basis I’d rather it worked than not. Since the Mailman2 lists are (mostly) HTML-free I think that setting will be brought across to Mailman3 by default – at least that’s what happened for selenetest. But we can ask everyone to switch off conversion as part of the migration if they want. Just to be sure it’s the list and not the crappy e-mail client I’m using (Windows Mail), can you let me know if the version of this e-mail that comes through the list matches the one that comes to you directly? Ælfred From: jeremy--- via Selenetest mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 8:43 AM To: 'Ælfred se leof' mailto:aelfred@nps.id.au ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' mailto:sca@dylan-kerr.net Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Is there a security/performance downside to letting HTML through? Because I don't think there are many non-html email clients left out there now. I know that spamassassin gives negative points to email which is only html. It thinks that is a Bad Sign, and that good mail should be multipart with plaintext and html versions - but it isn't a fatal problem, just something that contributes towards an overall score. -----Original Message----- From: Ælfred se leof via Selenetest mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 6:56 AM To: selenetest@lochac.sca.org mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: Dylan Kerr mailto:sca@dylan-kerr.net > Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barfed on the non-ASCII characters. Anyone know any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" mailto:sca@dylan-kerr.net > To: "Ælfred se leof" mailto:aelfred@nps.id.au >; selenetest@lochac.sca.org mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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Lochac Masonry Deputy

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I’ve found that e-mail from the list displays correctly in the desktop e-mail clients I’ve tried but not in Roundcube. So Mailman/html2text seems to be generating some encoding understood by the desktop clients but not Roundcube. Regarding the attachment, I get the list footer as an attachment that my e-mail client calls ‘attachment.txt’. I’ve been looking for a setting that puts the footer at the end of the e-mail body instead but so far haven’t found it. Ælfred From: jeremy@jeremygregson.com Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 10:38 AM To: 'Lochac Masonry Deputy'; 'Ælfred se leof'; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' Subject: RE: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client For me, the two messages are identical, including the dipthong in your name. The only difference is that the copy from the list includes an attachment, ‘00730.omcsettings’. Ditching that would be nice, but I note that I already get lots of emails from mailman which include an attachment that thinks it is a postgreql file. From: Lochac Masonry Deputy Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 9:53 AM To: jeremy@jeremygregson.com; 'Ælfred se leof' ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' Subject: RE: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client I don’t know of any significant downside unless the spam filter is a problem as Nico says. But since list administrators can choose HTML conversion or not on a list-by-list basis I’d rather it worked than not. Since the Mailman2 lists are (mostly) HTML-free I think that setting will be brought across to Mailman3 by default – at least that’s what happened for selenetest. But we can ask everyone to switch off conversion as part of the migration if they want. Just to be sure it’s the list and not the crappy e-mail client I’m using (Windows Mail), can you let me know if the version of this e-mail that comes through the list matches the one that comes to you directly? Ælfred From: jeremy--- via Selenetest Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 8:43 AM To: 'Ælfred se leof'; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: 'Dylan Kerr' Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Is there a security/performance downside to letting HTML through? Because I don't think there are many non-html email clients left out there now.. I know that spamassassin gives negative points to email which is only html. It thinks that is a Bad Sign, and that good mail should be multipart with plaintext and html versions - but it isn't a fatal problem, just something that contributes towards an overall score. -----Original Message----- From: Ælfred se leof via Selenetest Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 6:56 AM To: selenetest@lochac.sca.org Cc: Dylan Kerr Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program barfed on the non-ASCII characters. Anyone know any good HTML-to-text converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HTML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff) ------ Original Message ------ From: "Dylan Kerr" To: "Ælfred se leof" ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Subject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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Selenetest mailing list -- selenetest@lochac.sca.org To unsubscribe send an email to selenetest-leave@lochac.sca.org or manage your subscription via the web interface at https://mailman.lochac.sca.org/postorius/lists/selenetest.lochac.sca.org I=E2= =80=99ve found that e-mail from the list displays correctly in the desktop = e-mail clients I=E2=80=99ve tried but not in Roundcube. So Mailman/html2tex= t seems to be generating some encoding understood by the desktop clients bu= t not Roundcube. Regarding the attachment, I get the list footer as an attachment th= at my e-mail client calls =E2=80=98attachment.txt=E2=80=99. I=E2=80=99ve be= en looking for a setting that puts the footer at the end of the e-mail body= instead but so far haven=E2=80=99t found it. = =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C3=86lfred **From: =**[jeremy@jeremygregson.com **Sent:** Friday, 11 March 2022 10:38 AM **To:**['Lochac Masonry Deputy'](3D"m=); ['=C3=86lfred se leof'](3D"mailt=); [selenetest@lochac.sca.org](3D"mailto:selenetes=) **Cc:**['Dylan Kerr'](3D"ma=) **Subject:** RE: [Selenetes= t] Re: HTML from a different e-mail client For me, the two messages are identical, including the dipthong in y= our name. The only difference is that the copy from the list includes= an attachment, =E2=80=9800730.omcsettings=E2=80=99. Ditching t= hat would be nice, but I note that I already get lots of emails from mailma= n which include an attachment that thinks it is a postgreql file. **From:** Lochac Masonry Deputy **Sent:** Friday, 11 March 2022 9:53 AM = **To:** jeremy@jeremygregson.com; '=C3=86lfred se leof' ; selenetest@lochac.sca.org **Cc:** 'Dylan Kerr' **Subject:** RE: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a differe= nt e-mail client I don=E2=80=99t know of any significa= nt downside unless the spam filter is a problem as Nico says. But since lis= t administrators can choose HTML conversion or not on a list-by-list basis = I=E2=80=99d rather it worked than not. <= o:p> Since the Mailman2 lists are (most= ly) HTML-free I think that setting will be brought across to Mailman3 by de= fault =E2=80=93 at least that=E2=80=99s what happened for selenetest. But w= e can ask everyone to switch off conversion as part of the migration if the= y want. Just to be sure it=E2=80=99s the list and not the crappy e-mail c= lient I=E2=80=99m using (Windows Mail), can you let me know if the version = of this e-mail that comes through the list matches the one that comes to yo= u directly? =C3=86lfred **From:**jeremy--- via Selenetest **S= ent:** Friday, 11 March 2022 8:43 AM **To:**['=C3=86lfred se leof'](3D"mailto:aelf=); [selenetest@lochac.sca.org](3D"mailto:selenetest@loch=) **Cc:**['Dylan Kerr'](3D"mailto:s=) **Subject:** [Selenetest] Re: HTM= L from a different e-mail client <= o:p> Is there a security/performance do= wnside to letting HTML through? Because I don't think there are many = non-html email clients left out there now. I know that spamassassin gives= negative points to email which is only html. It thinks that is a Bad= Sign, and that good mail should be multipart with plaintext and html versi= ons - but it isn't a fatal problem, just something that contributes towards= an overall score. = <= /o:p> \-----Original Message----- From: =C3=86lfred se leof via Selenetest <[selenetest@lochac.sca.org](3D"ma=)> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2022 6:56 AM To: [sel= enetest@lochac.sca.org](3D"mailto:selenetest@lochac.sca.org") Cc: Dylan Ker= r <[sca@dylan-kerr.net](3D"mailto:sca@dylan-kerr.net")>= Subject: [Selenetest] Re: HTML from a differ= ent e-mail client <= p class=3DMsoNormal>Even worse, I sent another e-mail from the first e-mail= client that didn't get through at all because the HTML-to-text program bar= fed on the non-ASCII characters. &n;= bsp; Anyone know any good HTML-to-te= xt converters? Mailman's default is lynx but we didn't have that installed = so I've tried python3-html2markdown and html2text. Or should we just let HT= ML through? Aelfred (no non-ASCII stuff= ) \------ Original Message -----= - From: "Dylan Kerr" <= p class=3DMsoNormal>To: "=C3=86lfred se leof" <[aelfred@nps.id.au](3D"mail=)>; [selenetest@lochac.sca.org](3D"mailto:selenete=) Sent: 10/03/2022 9:18:57 PM Sub= ject: Re: [Selenetest] HTML from a different e-mail client

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